Deep South Dining

Topic: Malcolm and Carol welcome April McGregor to the show for Thanksgiving week. The Vardaman-native is in town for the holidays to talk about sweet potato farming, turkey carcass gumbo, fermenting, preserving, recipe developing, working as the current Director of The People’s Kitchen in Philadelphia, PA, and more.Guest(s): April McGregerHost(s): Malcolm White and Carol PalmerEmail: food@mpbonline.orgIf you enjoyed listening to this podcast, please consider contributing to MPB: https://donate.mpbfoundation.org/mspb/podcast Turkey Bone Gumbo by April McGregorRoux:1 cup fat — I used a combination of sunflower oil and lard from pasture-raised hogs1 heaping cup all purpose flourSeasoning vegetables & sausage:1 1/2; cups chopped celery1 1/2; cups chopped green pepper3 cups chopped yellow or white onionSaltBlack pepper1 pound Andouille or country sausage, preferably smoked, cut into bite size pieces (optional)Turkey & turkey stock:Turkey carcass, picked of as much meat as possible and reserved1 gallon water3 Bay leavesA pinch of cayenneA handful of fresh thyme sprigs or a teaspoon of dried thymeA handful of parsley stems1 onion, quartered, plus the skins from your chopped onion seasonings1 carrot, cut into 1-inch chunks2 stalks of celery, plus ends and pieces from your chopped celery seasoningsEnds and pieces from your chopped green pepper seasoningsA couple of smashed garlic gloves1 tablespoon whole peppercorns2 whole allspice berries, optionalA few drops of hot sauceSeveral pinches of saltTo Finish:1 cup chopped scallions1 cup chopped parsleyButtered white riceFile powder (optional)Hot sauce1. Assemble all of your seasonings and have them ready and your stock well under way before making your roux.2. In a large stock pot, start your turkey stock. Your carcass needs to be fully submerged under water. Cut your carcass down the breast bone or into several pieces to make this happen. Bring the stock to a gentle boil, then turn down to a steady slow simmer and cook for about 2 hours. Taste stock for seasoning and add more salt if necessary. Remove the carcass from the stock and set aside to let cool. When cool enough to handle, pick the meat from it and set aside. Strain the stock and reserve.3. Make your roux: In a large, heavy bottomed pot, heat oil over medium to medium high heat. Whisk in flour. Stir continuously until your roux is the color of dark brown sugar or chocolate. This may take 45 minutes or more. Take turns stirring with your friends or family, but keep stirring. If you are afraid that your roux is burning, turn down your heat.4. Dump your vegetable seasonings – onion, celery, and green pepper- into your roux and stir. Add a good pinch of salt and pepper and cook until wilted, about 5 minutes. Add your sausage and cook 5 minutes more.5. Next whisk in gradually about 8 cups of stock. Bring to a simmer and cook uncovered for 1 1/2 hours. Add reserved turkey meat and simmer another 10 minutes then stir in parsley and scallions. Taste for seasoning and add more salt and pepper as desired. Serve over hot, buttered rice and pass the hot sauce and file powder at the table.

Topic: With 10 days left until Thanksgiving, Malcolm and Carol welcome Tim Pierce to talk about Thanksgiving shopping and preparation, using heirloom cookware, and more.Guest(s): Tim PierceHost(s): Malcolm White and Carol PalmerEmail: food@mpbonline.orgIf you enjoyed listening to this podcast, please consider contributing to MPB: https://donate.mpbfoundation.org/mspb/podcast

Topic: Malcolm and Carol recap the National Folk Festival and the Deep South selections for the Inaugural Michelin Guide American South 2025. Then, they share an interview in honor of Veteran's Day with champion pitmaster, cookbook author, TV personality, BBQ evangelist/teacher, “40 Under 40” award winner, and lover of all things ‘cue, Chef Christopher Prieto of Prime BBQ in Knightdale, North Carolina.Guest(s): Christopher PrietoHost(s): Malcolm White and Carol PalmerEmail: food@mpbonline.orgIf you enjoyed listening to this podcast, please consider contributing to MPB: https://donate.mpbfoundation.org/mspb/podcast

Topic: Due to a shutdown in the United States government, Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) recipients are facing a potential pause in funds. Mississippi has the worst hunger problem in the nation, and this pause in SNAP funding will affect thousands of Mississippians. Malcolm and Carol welcome Interim CEO of Mississippi Food Network, Cass Mobley, to talk about how Mississippi organizations are responding to help their neighbors.Guest(s): Cass Mobley Host(s): Malcolm White and Carol Palmer Email: food@mpbonline.orgIf you need assistance from Mississippi Food Network, request help here. If you would like to help support Mississippi Food Network, donate here.

Topic: Malcolm and Carol are back in studio the week of Halloween to talk sauces, slugburgers, National Folk Festival, Halloween candies, Waffle House, and more.Host(s): Malcolm White and Carol PalmerEmail: food@mpbonline.orgIf you enjoyed listening to this podcast, please consider contributing to MPB: https://donate.mpbfoundation.org/mspb/podcast

Topic: Malcolm and Carol welcome James Beard Award-winning author and culinary historian, Michael W. Twitty, to the show to talk about his newest book, Recipes from the American South, released on October 15th. Guest(s): Michael W. TwittyHost(s): Malcolm White and Carol PalmerEmail: food@mpbonline.orgIf you enjoyed listening to this podcast, please consider contributing to MPB: https://donate.mpbfoundation.org/mspb/podcast

Topic: It's time for another "Coffee Shop," and today's topic is industry trends. Malcolm and Carol welcome Chef Enrika Williams, Joe Sherman, and Tim Pierce to the show to discuss trends they've noticed this year in restaurants and home cooking. They talk about menus, mocktails, tipping, deconstructing dishes, and more.Guest(s): Enrika Williams, Joe Sherman, and Tim PierceHost(s): Malcolm White and Carol PalmerEmail: food@mpbonline.orgIf you enjoyed listening to this podcast, please consider contributing to MPB: https://donate.mpbfoundation.org/mspb/podcast

Topic: Carol is out so Joe Sherman joins Malcolm to welcome back the gas station food critic, Stafford Shurden, to the show to talk about his new book, Meet and Three: A Southern Gentleman's Philosophy on Connection and Life. Stafford talks about growing up in the Delta, farming, reviewing gas station food, producing podcasts, and more.Guest(s): Stafford Shurden Host(s): Malcolm White and Joe Sherman Email: food@mpbonline.orgIf you enjoyed listening to this podcast, please consider contributing to MPB: https://donate.mpbfoundation.org/mspb/podcast

Topic: Malcolm and Carol reminisce about cookbooks and fried catfish. Then, Martha Allen Price from Extra Table updates everyone on upcoming fundraising events. And Chef David Crews joins the show to talk about The Delta, his culinary career, inspirations, and more.Guest(s): Martha Allen Price and David CrewsHost(s): Malcolm White and Carol PalmerEmail: food@mpbonline.orgIf you enjoyed listening to this podcast, please consider contributing to MPB: https://donate.mpbfoundation.org/mspb/podcast